Fair enough on your opinion on micheal moore, I'm sure I could quote loads of people who support him.
Anyway, the arguments about Micheal Moore is also the reason I mentioned the book "why do people hate America". I can't remember the authors are off hand, but can look up if you want. But it's alot harder to slag them off. The pages listing American invasions into democratic countries over the last several decades runs for pages..
The western nations are often responsible for installing the above regimes you've mentioned, and we certainly haven't helped as you said. Plus if you looked at it from that point of view, allot of the imigrants etc in America are treated like you've described above, and are pissed off at the living conditions. Depends which way you look at it.
When we bommed Afganistan, the contractors brought in to repare the country made a profit of 20%, the standard in the west is 5%. The west made money from bombing the country. Plus why was Iraq invaded but not Saudi Arabia? Because the american stock market would collapse. Or North Korea, they are a dangerous regime and are developing nuclear weapons? Its not about "liberation" it's about money and power.
To a large extent all you are quoting is American and UK properganda. The middle east won't be ruling it's self. The people put into power, ok so they're iraqis, but they are the ones america want. Ok, so I'm probably just as one sided, but from the other way, but I don't aprove of killing people for political reasons, and these are my views.
I think we'll have to agree to dissagree. Its a simple matter of differing politics. Neither of us is going to persuade the other, as we're both obviously fixed in our views. (Though I did think america was the land of the free until recently, hence doing camp america and visiting relatives, but I've changed my mind.
Anyway feel free to reply, but I'm not going to bother continuing:-) (I'll just get more frustrated!!!*talking to myself* let it go..... ;)
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Date: 2004-10-05 06:06 (UTC)Anyway, the arguments about Micheal Moore is also the reason I mentioned the book "why do people hate America". I can't remember the authors are off hand, but can look up if you want. But it's alot harder to slag them off. The pages listing American invasions into democratic countries over the last several decades runs for pages..
The western nations are often responsible for installing the above regimes you've mentioned, and we certainly haven't helped as you said. Plus if you looked at it from that point of view, allot of the imigrants etc in America are treated like you've described above, and are pissed off at the living conditions. Depends which way you look at it.
When we bommed Afganistan, the contractors brought in to repare the country made a profit of 20%, the standard in the west is 5%. The west made money from bombing the country. Plus why was Iraq invaded but not Saudi Arabia? Because the american stock market would collapse. Or North Korea, they are a dangerous regime and are developing nuclear weapons? Its not about "liberation" it's about money and power.
To a large extent all you are quoting is American and UK properganda. The middle east won't be ruling it's self. The people put into power, ok so they're iraqis, but they are the ones america want. Ok, so I'm probably just as one sided, but from the other way, but I don't aprove of killing people for political reasons, and these are my views.
I think we'll have to agree to dissagree. Its a simple matter of differing politics. Neither of us is going to persuade the other, as we're both obviously fixed in our views. (Though I did think america was the land of the free until recently, hence doing camp america and visiting relatives, but I've changed my mind.
Anyway feel free to reply, but I'm not going to bother continuing:-) (I'll just get more frustrated!!!*talking to myself* let it go..... ;)