"The policies of my opponent [Kerry] are dangerous for world peace," [George W.] Bush said. "If they were implemented, they would make this world not more peaceful, but more dangerous."
1) It's an opinion based upon fact. But you would expect me to say that anyway :-)
2) I think that "democratic countries" is a misnomer to a degree. Sure America has made mistakes, but it is damned when it does, and damned when it doesn't. And I think a lot of the envy is based upon jealousy to a degree.
3) Yet America is still the no-1 immigrant destination in the world. Plus, if the likes of Schwarzeneger can make it to the Governor of California, then that shows that anyone has a chance there. They built up a country out of nothing in just over 200 years. That's good going.
4) And? I don't think that is a reason not to liberate the country. It's how the free market works. As to why we aren't invading Saudi Arabia (which lets face it, is a horrible and barbaric regime which spreads and sponsors terror and intolerance), there's one reason: we need the oil. Which means the sooner we develop alternatives to oil the better, then we can tell Saudi where to go...
5) I think you're being overly cynical. After all, the biggest killer of muslims over the last few decades was...Saddam Hussein. Almost anyone would be better than Saddam, but the US Government is bound by US law to introduce a full democracy into Iraq.
6) Agreed. I'm in a similar position to you (except I'm right of course :-)). I read the guardian on-line every day and am almost physically sick at some of the views expressed. But I think we all must remember the words of Voltaire and his views about, well, views and holding them... :-)
7) Agrees. I feel the same a lot. Giving myself blood pressure for no good reason.
Well...I'm right because I read the Daily Telegraph and the Times (though the Times is occasionally a bit too New Labour) and I don't like the Mail's "Isolationist Right" viewpoint - I'm more of a Neoconservative. :-)
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Date: 2004-10-05 07:02 (UTC)1) It's an opinion based upon fact. But you would expect me to say that anyway :-)
2) I think that "democratic countries" is a misnomer to a degree. Sure America has made mistakes, but it is damned when it does, and damned when it doesn't. And I think a lot of the envy is based upon jealousy to a degree.
3) Yet America is still the no-1 immigrant destination in the world. Plus, if the likes of Schwarzeneger can make it to the Governor of California, then that shows that anyone has a chance there. They built up a country out of nothing in just over 200 years. That's good going.
4) And? I don't think that is a reason not to liberate the country. It's how the free market works. As to why we aren't invading Saudi Arabia (which lets face it, is a horrible and barbaric regime which spreads and sponsors terror and intolerance), there's one reason: we need the oil. Which means the sooner we develop alternatives to oil the better, then we can tell Saudi where to go...
5) I think you're being overly cynical. After all, the biggest killer of muslims over the last few decades was...Saddam Hussein. Almost anyone would be better than Saddam, but the US Government is bound by US law to introduce a full democracy into Iraq.
6) Agreed. I'm in a similar position to you (except I'm right of course :-)). I read the guardian on-line every day and am almost physically sick at some of the views expressed. But I think we all must remember the words of Voltaire and his views about, well, views and holding them... :-)
7) Agrees. I feel the same a lot. Giving myself blood pressure for no good reason.
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Date: 2004-10-05 07:19 (UTC)Just cos you admit to reading the guardian doesn't mean you're right!!;-)
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Date: 2004-10-05 07:44 (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-05 08:41 (UTC)Thats a lot of paper!!
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Date: 2004-10-05 09:16 (UTC)