Hahaha - oh.

[blufive]

It's not a joke, he's serious. Reuters:

"The policies of my opponent [Kerry] are dangerous for world peace," [George W.] Bush said. "If they were implemented, they would make this world not more peaceful, but more dangerous."

Hrm.

[yikes! look what grew when I was away]

Comments

[typhonian.livejournal.com]

Yes we do, when a religion dictates that unbelievers be killed and that apostates be killed.

Religion is only a set of ideas after all (how very chaos magic), and criticising ideas is a basic human right.

As for fundamentalist christians, oh yes I am. See http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova for an article I wrote about fundamentalist christians :-)

[stsquad.livejournal.com]

"when a religion dictates that unbelievers be killed and that apostates be killed."

But Islam doesn't dictate that. As far as religious works go the Koran is on a par with the Bible and the Tora for its temper (as well as inconsistencies). The terrorists may preach they are following Islam but they are not. The one sure way to alienate the peaceful majority is to declare their religion as "evil" and open season on all Arabs. Without stopping the radicalization of the population you'll never solve the terrorist problem as they will always be able to recruit some gullible fool into being the next martyr to the cause.

And pointing out the hypocrisy of the western nations is currently getting easier rather than harder.

[typhonian.livejournal.com]

"But Islam doesn't dictate that"

The Hadith do:

Bukhari, volume 9, #17

"Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Messenger, cannot be shed except in three cases: in Qisas (equality in punishment) for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (Apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/apostasy.htm

Now I would agree with you about the equal bloodthirtsyness of the other monotheist religions. I grew up in a fundamentalist christian family, I have first hand experience of how bad it can be.

[stsquad.livejournal.com]

But the Hadith are not the word of God, they are a scholars interpretation - there is some latitude there. And you can't jump from a selective quotation of one collection of Hadith to writing off a whole religion. Otherwise you could apply the same logic to any religious group.

I'm not going to defend the Koran (after all I'm an atheist) but I object to the vilification of a whole religion based on the actions of a very small minority of nutters.

[typhonian.livejournal.com]

I didn't - you'll note I specially referred to Wahabbist Islam. Which only accounts for a few percent of Muslims worldwide at most. There is much in certain aspects of islam to be commended, as indeed in certain parts of Judaism and Christianity.

[yonmei.livejournal.com]

I didn't - you'll note I specially referred to Wahabbist Islam. Which only accounts for a few percent of Muslims worldwide at most.

...and which you appear to be extremely ignorant about.

[typhonian.livejournal.com]

You know, I take no pleasure in all of this, but it is you who is ignorant about the wilder extremes of Islam.