"The policies of my opponent [Kerry] are dangerous for world peace," [George W.] Bush said. "If they were implemented, they would make this world not more peaceful, but more dangerous."
The Felon Law in Florida has been in existance since 1869. That does not exscuse it but for Gore et al to try and claim it is a conspiracy is for want of a term, a sign of sore loserdom.
Sure. The Felon Law in Florida is an outdated racist POS. Jeb Bush's use of it to eliminate tens of thousands of black voters from the electoral rolls was a conspiracy, though, by any definition of the word. George W. Bush was the sore loser, not Al Gore.
Especially since every single media recount in Florida has shown that Bush would have won under the proposed Gore recount rules.
Sure - Gore slipped. What he should have done was insist that every vote was counted, by hand, according to the usual rule of democratic elections - if the voter's intent is clear, the vote counts. By that rule, Gore won, as a recount completed in October 2001 established. More people in Florida who voted, voted for Gore.
Moore's blantant lie about members of Bin Laden's familiy getting special treatment to leave the states after 9-11 is just that - a lie.
No, it's not. It happened.
You indeed pick on the proposed pipeline. Which was cancelled by 1998.
Of course it was. The unrest in the region made it impossible to continue. Further rebutted here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/yonmei/313252.html?thread=3266724#t3266724).
Oil. This is wrong. The easiest thing is it was for the oil would be to, as the French were doing, drop the sanctions and suck up to Saddam.
You keep repeating this myth about the French. It makes you look very ill-informed. Do we need to go into the details of Halliburton's Saddam-sucking... while Dick Cheney was CEO, no less?
You also miss the absolutely abhorrent bit where he presents Saddam-Era Iraq as a land of flying kites and laughing children.
War is terrible. The situation in Iraq, thanks largely to the effects of the bombing in 1991 and the years of sanctions, was also terrible. But Iraqis on the ground have said that things were, on a day to day basis, better under Saddam Hussein's regime than they are now under US military occupation. Avoiding that point would have been lying propaganda.
1) Such laws are nothing to do with the GOP or Jeb Bush. Is it anyone democrats have got the reputation of being sore losers given their readiness to stoop to nonsensical conspiracy theories to explain their own incompetance (c.f. Theresa Kerry and Bin Landen)
Fearing reprisals against Saudi nationals, the Saudi government asked for help in getting some of its citizens out of the country….we have found that the request came to the attention of Richard Clarke and that each of the flights we have studied was investigated by the FBI and dealt with in a professional manner prior to its departure.
No commercial planes, including chartered flights, were permitted to fly into, out of, or within the United States until September 13, 2001. After the airspace reopened, six chartered flights with 142 people, mostly Saudi Arabian nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. One flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. We have found no credible evidence that any chartered flights of Saudi Arabian nationals departed the United States before the reopening of national airspace.
The Saudi flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI, to ensure that people on these flights did not pose a threat to national security, and that nobody of interest to the FBI with regard to the 9/11 investigation was allowed to leave the country. Thirty of the 142 people on these flights were interviewed by the FBI, including 22 of the 26 people (23 passengers and 3 private security guards) on the Bin Ladin flight. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity.
The FBI checked a variety of databases for information on the Bin Ladin flight passengers and searched the aircraft. It is unclear whether the TIPOFF terrorist watchlist was checked. At our request, the Terrorist Screening Center has rechecked the names of individuals on the flight manifests of these six Saudi flights against the current TIPOFF watchlist. There are no matches.
The FBI has concluded that nobody was allowed to depart on these six flights who the FBI wanted to interview in connection with the 9/11 attacks, or who the FBI later concluded had any involvement in those attacks. To date, we have uncovered no evidence to contradict this conclusion.
3) Pipeline: No, both Unocal and Kazai have denied this.
4) Total Fina Elf had contracts in pending with the Saddam regime for $19 billion dollars. http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/itsall.htm
5) But Iraqis on the ground have said that things were, on a day to day basis, better under Saddam Hussein's regime than they are now under US military occupation.
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Date: 2004-10-05 10:59 (UTC)Sure. The Felon Law in Florida is an outdated racist POS. Jeb Bush's use of it to eliminate tens of thousands of black voters from the electoral rolls was a conspiracy, though, by any definition of the word. George W. Bush was the sore loser, not Al Gore.
Especially since every single media recount in Florida has shown that Bush would have won under the proposed Gore recount rules.
Sure - Gore slipped. What he should have done was insist that every vote was counted, by hand, according to the usual rule of democratic elections - if the voter's intent is clear, the vote counts. By that rule, Gore won, as a recount completed in October 2001 established. More people in Florida who voted, voted for Gore.
Moore's blantant lie about members of Bin Laden's familiy getting special treatment to leave the states after 9-11 is just that - a lie.
No, it's not. It happened.
You indeed pick on the proposed pipeline. Which was cancelled by 1998.
Of course it was. The unrest in the region made it impossible to continue. Further rebutted here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/yonmei/313252.html?thread=3266724#t3266724).
Oil. This is wrong. The easiest thing is it was for the oil would be to, as the French were doing, drop the sanctions and suck up to Saddam.
You keep repeating this myth about the French. It makes you look very ill-informed. Do we need to go into the details of Halliburton's Saddam-sucking... while Dick Cheney was CEO, no less?
You also miss the absolutely abhorrent bit where he presents Saddam-Era Iraq as a land of flying kites and laughing children.
War is terrible. The situation in Iraq, thanks largely to the effects of the bombing in 1991 and the years of sanctions, was also terrible. But Iraqis on the ground have said that things were, on a day to day basis, better under Saddam Hussein's regime than they are now under US military occupation. Avoiding that point would have been lying propaganda.
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Date: 2004-10-05 12:01 (UTC)http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/samples200404080851.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/kirsanow200401080830.asp
Perhaps we can mention the Democrat's attempts to illegally deny thousands of military voters votes in Florida?
2) Bin Laden and family: Moore was flat-out wrong:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing10/staff_statement_10.pdf
Fearing reprisals against Saudi nationals, the Saudi government asked for help in getting some of its citizens out of the country….we have found that the request came to the attention of Richard Clarke and that each of the flights we have studied was investigated by the FBI and dealt with in a professional manner prior to its departure.
No commercial planes, including chartered flights, were permitted to fly into, out of, or within the United States until September 13, 2001. After the airspace reopened, six chartered flights with 142 people, mostly Saudi Arabian nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. One flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin. We have found no credible evidence that any chartered flights of Saudi Arabian nationals departed the United States before the reopening of national airspace.
The Saudi flights were screened by law enforcement officials, primarily the FBI, to ensure that people on these flights did not pose a threat to national security, and that nobody of interest to the FBI with regard to the 9/11 investigation was allowed to leave the country. Thirty of the 142 people on these flights were interviewed by the FBI, including 22 of the 26 people (23 passengers and 3 private security guards) on the Bin Ladin flight. Many were asked detailed questions. None of the passengers stated that they had any recent contact with Usama Bin Ladin or knew anything about terrorist activity.
The FBI checked a variety of databases for information on the Bin Ladin flight passengers and searched the aircraft. It is unclear whether the TIPOFF terrorist watchlist was checked. At our request, the Terrorist Screening Center has rechecked the names of individuals on the flight manifests of these six Saudi flights against the current TIPOFF watchlist. There are no matches.
The FBI has concluded that nobody was allowed to depart on these six flights who the FBI wanted to interview in connection with the 9/11 attacks, or who the FBI later concluded had any involvement in those attacks. To date, we have uncovered no evidence to contradict this conclusion.
3) Pipeline: No, both Unocal and Kazai have denied this.
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Hamid-Karzai
4) Total Fina Elf had contracts in pending with the Saddam regime for $19 billion dollars. http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/itsall.htm
5) But Iraqis on the ground have said that things were, on a day to day basis, better under Saddam Hussein's regime than they are now under US military occupation.
Cite?